reverendannie.myfreeforum.org :: Islamic Honor Killing??? Whose Honor???

tarotgirl

There is a terrible tradition that has been ignored for so long we do not even consider the effect this has on the women of Islam. Honor Killing is a horror they live with each and everyday. It is said if a woman has been defiled she must die, the governments of many Muslim nations and even western nations do not even keep records of the enormity of this practice. They do not classify death by motivation therefore, there is very little statistical information on how rampant this practice is within our world.
If I am a pure Islamic woman who is raped, or falls in love with a man; my father brothers and uncles have the right to kill me then and there, with little or no repercussions.
In Holland in the early 2000's they took two districts where Muslim immigrants lived and tracked these killings for two months. In two months 11 girls were killed by their male family members; there are over 20 districts like this in Holland alone. what of the rest of the world?

"Honour" killings of women can be defined as acts of murder in which "a woman is killed for her actual or perceived immoral behavior." (Yasmeen Hassan, "The Fate of Pakistani Women," International Herald Tribune, May 25, 1999.) Such "immoral behavior" may take the form of marital infidelity, refusing to submit to an arranged marriage, demanding a divorce, flirting with or receiving phone calls from men, failing to serve a meal on time, or -- grotesquely -- "allowing herself" to be raped. In the Turkish province of Sanliurfa, one young woman's "throat was slit in the town square because a love ballad was dedicated to her over the radio." (Pelin Turgut, "'Honour' Killings Still Plague Turkish Province," The Toronto Star, May 14, 1998.)

Most "honour" killings of women occur in Muslim countries, the focus of this case study; but it is worth noting that no sanction for such murders is granted in Islamic religion or law. And the phenomenon is in any case a global one. According to Stephanie Nebehay, such killings "have been reported in Bangladesh, Britain, Brazil, Ecuador, Egypt, India, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Pakistan, Morocco, Sweden, Turkey and Uganda." Afghanistan, where the practice is condoned under the rule of the fundamentalist Taliban movement, can be added to the list, along with Iraq and Iran. (Nebehay, "'Honor Killings' of Women Said on Rise Worldwide," Reuters dispatch, April 7, 2000.)

adapted from: view the whole website my friends.
http://www.gendercide.org/case_honour.html

This is only the beginning, I am on a rant for sure... this must end in our lifetime, we can no longer ignore the suffering of our Muslim sisters....TG

biyu

*didnt read the link just whats posted textwise here* tho wouldnt you think on some level they could choose to incarnate to jearn from it? --if it happened to one of my friends i prollyt would be devistated by it an all we need ta stop it leas i woulda been this time last year-- i know in japan research an jus watchin some shows that were fansubbed its all honor bring honor to the family name an that maby this is a more extreme form of it?

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biyu

tarotgirl

Most Muslim women are given minimal education if at all, they are taught the qur'an by rote and taught never to question. i know it seems petty, especially by today standards, and this is just another part of Islam that the western world chooses not to see, for the sake of religious tolerance, but this IS A HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE! All people have the right to live without fear of oppression, to love as they see fit and to make a better world for those who follow. This was islamic law since 600+/- AD over 1200 years of honor/death. for who?
TG

Rev/Scout · Site Admin

tarotgirl

That day may indeed be near but is probably a long time coming as most patriarchs are the ones in power. With brave people like ayaan making a big difference in what we choose not to see now a days and of course people like Theo Van Gogh (may he rest in peace) who gave/give even their very life's breath to invoke change maybe it can be sooner than later...TG

biyu

tarotgirl

and i say this with a heart of gold because i know dreams come true, if we all dream hard enough it will be a reality....TG
the women will change this, not the men. When we all stand as one and scream enough is enough, no man will have sex or dinner til is done! and I say to them tough

30,000 yrs have passed by where men have ruled as women toiled we must return to the balance when all work together for humanity not manity.

biyu

yet you look huMANity or woMAN prolly outhers too but leas with english there ingraned oh! HIStory yea im kinda past the

but meh *needs time reviving endangered species ion zoo tycoon2 ta relax an return to the kid mood* an yea LOL there too stubbourn an hard headed ta see that they may be dooin more harm then good but then im like that too so i dont know if i specifically would be a better replacement tho i think a more unified approach rightnow nmay be better but maby im thinkin strangely i mean look at the "animals" which the human species (tg remember whoos sayin this) seems to place itself "above" hmm elefants live awhile i think bout as long as us an they have a crazy good memory i mean the matriarch knows where ta go an they if im right actuallyy kinda mourn outher elefants (dead ones) that they pass by or how about dolphins? more matriarch concidered smart mamals look at seaworld i mean really all that there trained ta do an stop by the seceret garden see what they can do too duchess can "tell" any outher not to listen to the trainers if im right (trainer fer a day 2x at mirage duchess is the matriarch of that pod--ythink there called pods?) still look what they can figure

an LOL wolves (shoulda figured id mention) theres an alhpa male an alpha female sometimes one or another sometimes a daughter may kill her father to become an alpha (growing up wolf) point is much of the time as i know its more a shared duty (sidenote wolves only the alphas mate) an that sharing may help with a balance too

really? humans are above animals? i think theres much to be learned from those you place youreself above if theres a single person you think youre better then ask youreself why you think youre betyter then them shure could be different skills but how i see it as people were same level (even me har an kitten are the same level)

edit ok i went ot smack me idf yall like incorperatin afew of my thoughts in